It was all very civil

Very little political point scoring and a lot of staying on message. That’s what the audience in St Mary’s heard during the Rye Hustings which took place on Saturday evening June 29. It was all very civil, with the candidates perhaps mindful of the location and the chairman of the discussion, Revd Paul White.

The crowd at the Hastings and Rye hustings

Seven out of the eight candidates for the Hastings and Rye Constituency took part, each speaking for three minutes before taking questions from the hundred strong audience. There was passion, and on occasion carefully chosen words to disguise fury, but mostly it was an even-tempered debate with the minor parties acknowledging a Labour victory and appealing for votes to “send a message from Rye to Sir Kier Starmer”.

Rev Paul introducing the candidates

The most interesting question came from Darryl Telles. Noting that Rye had a history of electing independent MPs, Daryl asked for an “issue the candidates disagreed with their party leader on”.

The first two candidates both gave substantial issues, for Phil Colley from the Workers Party it was more support for the Uyghur people and differences with the party leader over China and Taiwan. For Communist Nicholas Davies it was rejoining the European Union.

For everyone else there was less disagreement and more consensus. Helena Dollimore for Labour: “We have a fantastic manifesto based on making a difference. We should go further on women’s health and birth trauma.” Lucian Fernando from Reform highlighted support for people in employment noting his party valued independent thought. Lib Dem Guy Harris said he disagreed with his leader’s “moments of madness to get publicity. I winced to start with but now I get it.” Sally-Ann Hart for the Conservatives talked about social care and unfulfilled promises from the 2019 manifesto. More was needed to help she said, including the much discussed cap on paying for care. Becca Horn from the Green Party explained how her party’s manifesto was put together. “I genuinely struggle to find something I disagree with, but I think we should go further on abolishing the House of Lords.”

What did Daryll Telles think of the answers? “It was a mix wasn’t it? Some clearly found it difficult not to stay on message and say what they really felt. I wanted to hear them put Rye first and know they would stand up against their leader if they thought he was wrong about something.”

Helena Dollimore, Labour Party

The Rye Hustings began with an introduction from Revd Paul White. He encouraged “mutual respect and civility” from both those taking part and the audience. “Politics can sometimes be bad tempered. We may disagree but there will be no personal attacks.” In the order they appear on the ballot, the candidates spoke for three minutes.

Phil Colley – Worker’s Party – talked about the situation in Gaza. “A man-made atrocity being ignored by the main parties.”

Nick Davies – Communist Party – described how his party would “transform people’s lives through taking industry back into public ownership”.

Helena Dollimore – Labour – explained how 14 years of the conservative government was holding Rye back. “People here are crying out for change. People have had the hope beaten out of them.”

Lucian Fernando, Reform UK

Lucian Fernando – Reform – highlighted his background in the armed forces and his “patriotism, duty and Christian Catholic faith”.

Guy Harris – LibDem – talked about his passion for the local area, comparing the current conditions in the UK to scenes he witnessed working in Baghdad in 2010. “Like post-conflict Iraq, politics here is broken.”

Sally-Ann Hart – Conservative – described the successes she had achieved as MP since 2019. “I haven’t finished yet. For me it’s personal. I’ve worked my socks off over the past four and a half years. I want the best for Rye.”

Becca Horn – Green – described her love for the history and heritage of Rye talking about holidaying in Pontins too. But, she said: “There’s an unavoidable layer of deprivation and struggle for too many here.”

Sally-Ann Hart, Conservative Party

Questions from the audience included Brexit. To loud applause Chris Hoggart wanted to know which party would rejoin the European Union. Hilary Morfitt, to more applause, asked when we might see the much-promised benefits of Brexit.

“We’ve yet to see the £350 million  for the NHS we were promised on that bus” started Helena Dollimore. “We left. We are not rejoining. But there were so many holes in the deal that need re-negotiating.” Sally-Ann Hart told the audience it was not surprising it was taking longer than three-and-a-half years to put right something that lasted fifty years. “We are charging ahead. Our economy is growing. We are doing really well.” Guy Harris noted the referendum but wanted the UK to rejoin the EU. “We need to repair relations with Europe and reverse the damage.”

Lucian Fernando wanted Reform to sort Brexit and complete what hasn’t been achieved. “It’s a great opportunity,” he said. Becca Horn and Nick Davies both wanted a return to the customs union. Phil Colley noted how the 2016 referendum had devastated the lives of young people, but said the EU had issues with its response to Ukraine and Gaza.

Guy Harris, Liberal Democrats

Following more questions on road speeds in Winchelsea, supporting young people, academy trusts and advice for getting more joy out of life, the two -and-a-half hour Rye Hustings finished. Revd White thanked the candidates and the audience. “It was a good exercise in democracy. We could have gone on for hours as there were many more questions. No fights. All very civil.”

Reaction from the audience was good. One commented on the atmosphere. “The debate was very well controlled with candidates sticking to the party line. The audience was polite and rather subdued.” Another welcomed the contrast with the sometimes tetchy and negative national election debates. “It was much easier to follow the points without constant interruptions like we have seen with some of the televised debates.”

Rev Paul White, master of ceremonies

The eighth candidate – who was invited – but was unable to attend is Paul Crosland, Independent.

The General Election is on Thursday July 4. Polling stations will be open from 7am to 10pm. Don’t forget to bring some form of photo ID.

 

Image Credits: Natasha Robinson .

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6 COMMENTS

  1. Safe to say there was a clear winner, Helena’s assurance, grasp of the details, ability to engage with the heart of a question, never lose sight of the human aspect and reflect Labour’s honesty in not promising the earth all contributed to her being the only candidate with credibility. I thought the choice was very clear, if voted in Helena would make a formidable advocate for our constituency. I really enjoyed the evening, I thought for the most part (but sadly not all) candidates spoke well and the atmosphere was respectful (again not always however). Fr Paul did a great job keeping the momentum going and some really fantastic questions. Made me proud once again of our wonderful town.

  2. Glad to hear how much people appeared to listen to each other at this -as opposed to more infamous- hustings. To clarify further my non-attendance as the returning Independent Candidate, my email autoreply stated:
    “ As regards the constituency hustings I hereby ask the organisers to set out a chair for me and to read out this statement:
    ““I’ve gone away from the 5thDec2019 HowlingHustings into a series of Quaker Meetings where an hour communicates a deepening understanding and drawing together of each person’s (often adversity-forged) testimony. I would like there to be space in the hustings just to
    silently reflect on the universal needs/values being communicated or frustrated in our different ideas about how to deepen democracy in a much damaged/pilfered state. Pilfered because even interrupting is
    “taking the not given”.
    I ask the hosts of all this election’s hustings to allocate the time they would have allocated to me in relation to each question instead
    to silence.
    Whilst I will not be there to clutter that sacred space whilst you sort between the representatives of political parties, I will post a sign to be held up during the silences. Thank you”

    As I made a contribution to the 5th December 2019 hustings which has
    been much valued, I invite you to listen to the first 10 minutes.

  3. To reply to my pal, Si, that’s one perspective. For the sake of political balance on Rye News, I know others are widely available!!

    I would like to add a footnote on the hustings, if I may. Immediately after the hustings, former Labour MP for Hastings and Rye, Michael Foster, approached me to challenge my riposte to Helena Dollimore’s remark about the infamous Clegg u-turn on tuition fees all the way back in 2010. It always seems to be fresh in Labour minds.

    Noting her critique was “fair”, I reminded Helena that Labour had themselves been explicit prior to the ‘97 election that they would not charge tuition fees. Two months after the election, they did exactly what they said they would not do. Mr Foster reminded me he’d served in the 1997 Labour government and was sure no such promise had been made. He advised me to ‘check my facts’…

    Though I was pretty sure of my facts, as a political novice, when a former Labour MP challenges you, you obviously question yourself… I did double check my facts. Below are two quotations which may jog Mr Foster’s memory of his time in government:

    “Labour has no plans to introduce tuition fees for higher education.” (Tony Blair)

    “We are quite clear that tuition costs must be met by the state.” (Robin Cook)

    Below is the Channel 4 article, ‘Fact Check’, from which they’re drawn. It makes uncomfortable reading for all parties. In terms of students, the message to all parties is, ‘must try harder’.

    Thanks to Paul and to all who participated in organising the hustings, and to all those who attended. Best of luck on Thursday – to candidates and to electors.

    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-how-students-have-been-misled-and-lied-to-for-20-years

  4. Thank you, Paul. You did ask that in your auto-reply but I didn’t and couldn’t accept your request. With 7 people on the panel it was already sufficiently challenging to get through many questions without leaving time for silence. Also, I am afraid, that if you are not present at the meeting then you cannot reasonably expect to play a part in it, otherwise there is no incentive for anyone to be present.

  5. I agree that the hustings was well conducted, thoughtful and insightful. Thanks to those involved in the organisation.

    It was a shame to see and hear a group of people led by Keith Glazier near the front talking loudly and making grimaces every time Helena Dollimore and others spoke.

    They would be well advised to take an etiquette lesson from Sally Ann Hart, who though I disagree with her on almost everything, is always polite, professional and attentive. A grown up.

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